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Falcons And Saints Recap: Losing Is Never Easy

I believed.

At various points in last night's game against the Saints, I really believed the Falcons were going to roar back and win it. All the signs were there. The defense was buckling down. The offense was moving efficiently. We looked nigh invincible some drives. It was a beautiful thing.

And then, as Chinua Achebe wrote, things fall apart.

It was a real gut punch of a game in that way. We weren't widely expected to be able to hang with the Saints, perhaps the league's toughest team, and yet that's exactly what the Falcons did. Losing a close game against a division rival is rough enough, but this loss may also have squashed our hopes of winning the division. I'm getting bummed out just typing that.

Still, as many of you pointed out, there's so many things we can take pride in after Monday. Not just that we kept the score close, but that we picked Drew Brees, managed a respectable defensive effort and finally unleashed Michael Turner. The fact that we played them so well that a win at the Georgia Dome in a few weeks suddenly seems eminently possible. The realization that we can hang in there with the very best is a comforting one as we continue our hunt for a playoff spot, and it's enough to make those losses against the Patriots and Cowboys sting a bit less. This is still a mighty interesting season, and I for one am looking forward to seeing how it plays out.

Star-divide

HIGHLIGHTS

  • Those who have thought that Michael Turner was due to break out at any moment can feel free to crow now. With Jason Snelling and Jerious Norwood out, Turner was operating without a safety net, and he absolutely destroyed the Saints on the ground all day long for 151 yards and a touchdown. You can't overstate how good he looked today and the confidence boost this had to have been for him, so hopefully he's returned to his world-annihilating form for good. Glad to have you back, Burner!
  • While we're at it, huge props to Roddy White. That 68 yard touchdown was a thing of beauty. Props also to Tony Gonzalez, who managed to make Matt Ryan's job a little easier Monday.
  • Coy Wire was awesome. His forced fumble almost gave us a chance to get back into it, and he managed to scoop another. A huge props to the Falcon defense in general for their ability to generate some turnovers, and Thomas DeCoud continues to win my heart by showing up to play every single time.
  • Speaking of turnovers, did you see that Brent Grimes interception? Kid scooped up a little cloud with his football on that one. Made me feel pretty good about the secondary for a few minutes, at least.
  • Curtis Lofton got hurt, came back and piled up stops. Can't knock his hustle.
  • Michael Koenen wins the field position battle most of the time. With two punts inside the 20, he was a limiting factor for the Saints offense more than once. You have to appreciate that.
  • The day I stop praising Eric Weems in this section is the day he runs to the moon.

LOWLIGHTS

  • Contrary to your likely first impression, I'm not putting Matt Ryan here because of the picks. Those were largely a combination of bad luck and a little bit of questionable decision-making. Ryan's here because he looked downright awful under pressure at times, and he never got into a rhythm. How much of that is on the New Orleans defense and how much of it is on Ryan I'll leave up to you, but it's clear this wasn't his finest hour. All part of the growth of a young quarterback, I guess.
  • Michael Jenkins has to go here despite an otherwise solid game because he had a critical, critical drop that earned him the temporary scorn of every Falcons fan in the country. That's right around the clinical definition of a lowlight.
  • All that talk about our secondary being a weakness and our cornerbacks being too short is, I think, somewhat overblown. That said, our biggest critics will point to last night and crow. Way too many passes where a guy either wasn't in the right spot or simply couldn't get up in the air enough to stop Marques Colston & Co. from hauling in the pass.
  • Up until the final quarter of the game, tackling was spotty at best. Harrumph!
  • I have a lot of respect for Jason Elam. I think he's a good guy and a great kicker. That said, it's time to give him some rest or figure out exactly what issue is causing these misses, because they were a game-changer Monday night. With some strong-legged young kickers ripe for the picking out there, it might be time to bring in a stopgap until Elam can work it all out. Tough break for him and the team, though.

THE WRAPUP

Game MVP: I'll give an approving nod in the direction of Coy Wire, but Michael Turner was a beast and deserves his due. Congratulations, Touchdown Vampire!

Game Theme Song: We went the distance!

One Thing To Take Away: We're good and tough and gosh darn it, people like us!

Next Week: Head over to Canal Street Chronicles one last time before saying hello to the Washington Redskins. The Redskins are capably represented by our very own Hogs Haven, so give 'em a visit.

Final Word: Soclose.

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I feel like Ryan rarely has a pocket. Maybe a screen pass or bootleg would work, because it is hard to throw well without any space.

by MostlyCorndog on Nov 3, 2009 8:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I am disappointed at the lack of screen plays in the play book when Norwood is unavailable.

Roddy White’s YAC average is so incredible, why not try to set up a screen for him? Or Weems?

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Nov 3, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I can't believe

after Weems’ game against the Cowboys, he wasn’t involved in the offense at all except for that terrible reverse call. I was waiting on that pass out of the backfield on a few plays but never got it. Made me sad

by ATL Forever on Nov 3, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I felt the same way......

Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by HEYJUDE on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was nice to see improvement on "explosive" plays

i.e. plays over 15 yards. I thought we did a great job getting the ball downfield, and we also stepped up in the run game and actually started grinding some yardage out.

I’m in agreement with you on screens. I was complaining about our inability to use long pass plays before this game, but now the short and intermediate passing game doesn’t seem to be there. I’m beginning to think the lack of Harry Douglas is a bigger loss than we all anticipated. It sure would be nice to have him in the slot.

by LetsGoFalcons on Nov 3, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The game was changed by the bogus

holding call on Peterson ( on Bush) with about seven minutes to go. That call gave New Orleans a first down instead of punting. The one horrible call in a game where the replays got the calls right.

by NewAgeDirtyBirdFan on Nov 3, 2009 8:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The thing that sucks about that call...

…is that the game really could have gone either way at that point, and now we’ll never know how it might have played out. Both teams were playing at an incredibly high level and for the first time this year it looked like the Saints might see a lead change late in the game. It should have been 4th and 5 resulting in the Saints having to punt and make a tough defensive stand against an offense that was picking up serious steam and threatening to upset them in their own house—watching that play out would have been exciting! Instead N.O. got an unearned second chance to widen their lead, and that little advantage was all they needed to put it in the bag despite one the most valiant final-minute efforts I’ve ever seen. I can’t say the Saints didn’t earn their victory because they played like champs throughout the game, but I don’t think anyone can claim that wasn’t a bad call that affected the course of the game in a significant way. If the Saints punt there, it’s not hard to imagine the Falcons pulling out the win….but we’ll never know.

Can’t wait to get them back at home!

by Mountvillainy on Nov 3, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And The Pick 6

N.O. conerback knocked down Rody White while the ball was still in the air. It really sucked, Falcons played really hard and didn’t get any breaks

by EVeezy on Nov 3, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe

that wasn’t called. I mean, White was on the ground! How much more obvious could it get?

by orion12 on Nov 3, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget

the non-PI call on Vilma on Jabari Greer’s pick 6

by ATL Forever on Nov 3, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Dave, you missed a trick there!

And then, as Chinua Achebe wrote, things fall apart.

Achebe’s title comes from W.B. Yeats’ Second Coming, which opens:

“Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world…”

Which seems appropriate, what with all the crowd noise in the Superdome :-D

by Ignoramus on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Darn!

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by Dave the Falconer on Nov 3, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The call was bad, but the Saints earned the win

The Saints definitely earned that win. Great ground game, opportunitic defense.

The passing game was the real kicker though. Brees got a lot of praise in the booth (and he was great), but their receivers just killed out there. You can’t hold our secondary too accountable for it – when you have guys making crazy catches like the Saints receivers did ALL NIGHT, there’s not much you can do to stop it. It’s like trying to defned the fade-away jumper when someone’s really got it working – you just can’t. Got to tip the hat to the Saints.

Proud of our team though. We’ll be at that level when Ryan takes those next few steps with his game – not a question of if, just a question of when.

by NeedATicketToTheGame on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

On that note

This is officially where we see what Matt Ryan is made of. After a rosy rookie year, he’s been somewhat pedestrian in his last three games.

Matty Ice has incredible talent and a good head on his shoulders, so I’m confident that he will at some point turn the corner and become a consistently great QB. But doubters are going to rear their ugly head after these past three games, media is going to hard on his turnovers, people are going to talk about whether he deserves all the praise he’s received.

Every QB goes through it. Some rise to the challenge (a good example is Brees). Some don’t. (A good example is he who’s name won’t be spoken in Philly).

Either way, Ryan’s gotta keep his head up, because he’s going to face greater criticism now than at any other point in his short NFL career.

by LetsGoFalcons on Nov 3, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

at least he's resilient

Good note. Saw a couple flashes last night of what he can be – that laser to Jenkins on the post in the second half showed the aniticipation and confidence he needs to have.

Thinking back to those first 2 road games Matt had last year; he came out in the first half of the games aganst the Bucs and Panthers looking like a scared rookie, then went to the locker room at half time, and came out a completely different QB. He seems to self-correct, which is huge. Hopefully he’ll keep doing that, and like you suggest, keep his head up and work through this period.

Think the next step for him is to work on his footwork. The game film from last night will have Brees showing some pretty good examples.

by NeedATicketToTheGame on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely, That's An Intangible You Have to Have to Succeed

And that’s why I have a ton of confidence in him. He is very resilient and doesn’t dwell. Soon it will click for him and we’ll see something real special. I have no doubt about it.

by LetsGoFalcons on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We should remember

that the coming schedule gets a lot easier from here on in..

go hard or go home

by TO falcon on Nov 3, 2009 9:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

We also have to remember

That we gave the saints their biggest scare this year… in the superdome. That is pretty impressive. I definitely think the falcons can beat them in the Georgia Dome.

by MostlyCorndog on Nov 3, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AGREE

It’s easier to focus on the negatives, but I definitely feel like we finally established an identity that we can win with. Now all we need to do is kick those field goals!

by orion12 on Nov 3, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bad Call numero Dos

Was when Roddy was being held by the ankles in the endzone on his drop, and Numero Tres was when the LB knocked him to the ground on the INT.

Im not saying thats why we lost (ELAM, RYAN) but it didnt help. We would have had the ball back in good shape.

Im concerned about Ryan. He is misfiring A LOT. I mean firing real short ( to roddy) and over throwing a ton of folks… Hasnt looked real sharp at all.

" No, I think I'll sit in the balcony " - Abe Lincoln

by tapate50 on Nov 3, 2009 10:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The last pass of the game was begging for a mobile QB with a big arm...

Shockey didn’t earn his spot, but I think in the late, late rounds or as an UFA we should look for a guy like Ryan Perrilloux out of Jacksonville State.

"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath

by NaGaNole on Nov 3, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

that call didn't lose this game for the falcons

the falcons did. you cant beat great teams, even good teams for that matter if you cant take advantage of their mistakes. the falcons got 4 turnovers from their defense. resulting in 3 points and actually gave the saints 7. you can’t drop sure first down passes, you cant miss easy field goals that 51 yarder we knew was pushing his range and is a hard kick for anyone. you cant miss tackles especially drive ending tackles. their first touchdown should have been 3.

good things, does anyone else wanna hear what mike smith said to his defense at halftime, i sure do. turner came back in the biggest of ways, that 4 qrt run was remarkable. the falcons punched the saints in the mouth all second half and showed this team wont stay perfect this year.

side notes – turner is not a screen RB, reggie bush and norwood are turner is not, i do think we should roll the pocket more but teams are starting to pick up on that call. watch the replays and you see ryan usually throws underneath or out of bounds when he rolls out. the latter happens because defense ends have watched film and saw us kill the dolphins with this and have started grabbin that underneath release. which isn’t a penalty because he is within five yards. Funniest thing all game had to be the grimes interception, i watched it like 10 times after it happened and i don’t think he knew he could jump that high. watch as he is falling you see him try to plant that left leg into the grass to start a return but he was way to up there and he falls on his face, amazing catch but hilarious all the same.

by SBorbust on Nov 3, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The call didn't lose the game

but you can’t honestly say that it didn’t affect the course of the game. The Falcons defense earned that 3-and-out, and the offense should have been able to come back onto the field and get another chance at taking the lead. Instead, the Saints basically got a mulligan on a drive that should have ended in a punt, and being the excellent team that they are they made the most of that second chance. Stopping them once on a drive is difficult enough. I don’t know who would have won if that call hadn’t been made, but the Falcons deserved another shot on offense right then. I’m not trying to dwell on it though, it was a tough matchup between two great teams that could have gone either way pretty much right up to the end. Fans of both teams have a lot to be proud of and a lot to look forward to when the Aints come to our house.

by Mountvillainy on Nov 3, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grimes

Grimes had a good game last night. Had that highlight pick, plus solid tackling throughout, and he seemed to stay in his receiver’s hip pocket. He’s a monster athelete. I wonder if he can figure out how to out-atheleticize the guys who are out-big-guying him right now. Not sure if that’s even possible? It sounds good though.

by NeedATicketToTheGame on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Two Words

Brent Grimes!!!!!! I’ve said it all year. Man is a beast. Please nobody tell him he’s only 5-9 because it seems like he doesn’t know. Tye Hill had a solid game and the touchdown catch he gave up to Colston was played well but Colston is just too strong and Hill couldn’t knock it out. Anyone else see VANCE WALKER?! Held his own for a 7th round pick

by ATL Forever on Nov 3, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This game was not as close as you guys think

…it was closer. Congrats on one hell of an effort. The Falcons exposed a lot of weaknesses on the Saints last night, and if we don’t get some things fixed we may wind up squandering this start like we did in 1991. (If I recall correctly, we won the division that year…and then y’all beat us in the playoffs.)

Super Bowl 44: "If you play in this league and it's not your goal, there's something wrong with you." -- Marques Colston

by MtnExile on Nov 3, 2009 10:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great game!

This one will definitely be on NFL Replay this week. The Falcons continue to be the scariest team out there to Saints fans. This one could have gone either way and, towards the end, it looked like the Saints’ miscues were going to result in a loss. I agree that the holding on Reggie call that kept that scoring drive alive was highly questionable. The game could have gone much differently from there. I hope Payton spends whatever time necessary this week to fix the mistakes they made. Recent injuries and the burden of maintaining a perfect record seems to be taking its toll on them. Some are already handing the Saints the division title, but I’m not going to count my chickens before they hatch. A couple more key injuries could really derail the season for us.

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by satchmo26 on Nov 3, 2009 11:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Believe me, we know about injuries all too well ;(

I gotta say, if there’s any team I wouldn’t mind losing to in the playoffs, it’d be the Saints.

by Zippo729 on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

the fact that we were actually in the game and had a chance to win it despite making so many mistakes and not to mention the missed field goals ( I am going to flowery Branch on my way home to see if my leg can still kick 40+ like I used to be able to) made we fell pretty good. Losing it with 3 minutes left really sux, but it it what it is… you cant change it. I guess the Turner doubters can take a chill pill now at least. I told you he would be fine. You saw what I have been saying all along though. The holes are not there. he had to bust almost every run outside. Even with Ovie in the game. Man I hate losin to the Aints. I can’t wait for the rematch.

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by Hardcore Falcon on Nov 3, 2009 11:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

hit on brees should have been personel foul

that should have been penalty not touch down you will see this week when nfl fines falcon that made helment to helment contact with brees, touchdown to white for 66 yards was offence interference not call espn and nfl channel said it was bad call, plus same ref 3 foot from drop touchdown called touchdown zebras were bought and paid for by Home Depot and you guys are still crying so if saints are aints then falcons are fallcoons….

by bigbaddon on Nov 3, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course we're not happy with the calls

Neither are you. Should we both stop complaining about bad calls? No, because the officiating was truly awful and both teams can stake claim to at least two bad calls. I’ll agree a couple more went against the Saints than should’ve, but c’mon. We both got jobbed to some extent.

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by Dave the Falconer on Nov 3, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

dude

you won and you come in here to bitch? Whats the damage? Meet me at the Ga dome when the AINTS come to town. I got a nice cold beer for ya.

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by Hardcore Falcon on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

umm no

Brees ducked like a little girl on that hit. Tell him to stand up and take the hit next time and maybe he won’t lower his head into our players helmets. I’d call it on Brees for lower his helmet. Go back to your trailor boat.

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by Jesse28 on Nov 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

After all the zero and 1 gap runs we've been doing

the off tackle runs had to work, eventually, once teams thought they were seeing a trend.

by Zippo729 on Nov 3, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're spot-on about the tackling

My wife thought I lost my mind as I was yelling, “Chicken arms! You can NOT tackle with chicken arms!” (Expletives deleted).

Still, this was as happy a loss as I can remember. The Falcons looked like they belonged in the game this time.

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GO FALCONS!!!

by AnOldBird on Nov 3, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hard loss to swallow

All we had to do was execute and we could have beaten NO. While there were some really crappy calls and some bad tackling we only gave up 7 points to NO in the second half. Whom else has done that this year?

We essentially gave the game to NO. Ryan threw three INT’s and one that went for a TD right before half time (-7) and another at the goal line near the end of the game (-7). Jenkins dropped a 3rd down pass that would have given us a first and goal. Based on our redzone offense this year that proabably would have scored a TD instead of missing a field goal but I’ll take the lesser of the points for the arguement (-3). Elam then missed another field goal (-3). That is easily a 20 point turn around. You can always argue that no points are a gaurantee, okay let’s say we got half of those points, 10, then we could have won the game by two points. Yeah, I know, no gaurantees.

The odd thing is that Ryan threw 3 INT’s during the best game that Turner has had so far this season.

What is boils down to is that this was a win-able game that we threw away, literally. Teams that know how to win don’t play this way. They take advantage of opportunities and drive the ball down their opponents throats.

by mwalex on Nov 3, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think this was one of the best games we played

next to the San Francisco game. After watching our offense come out and fire on all cylinders, with Turner back to his Pro Bowl form and FINALLY some deep passing plays. The defense played solid, better than anyone could have hoped for after that terrifying preseason. All we need to do is get Elam set straight and calm Ryan down (I find it hard to blame him too much for those three picks: one should have been called for pass interference, one was a hail mary, and one was just a sick play) and we could be playing in January. I actually have more confidence in this team than any other point this season.

by orion12 on Nov 3, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Numbers are VERY misleading.

If I was a random person looking at the stats, I’d see Ryan’s 3 picks and be like “Oh, Ryan played like crap.” Then someone would dial up FALCONS SORRY’s number on ajc and he’d start yelling about how we should’ve drafted Flacco and etc. etc.

But I agree. I watched the highlights of the game. Roddy White was on the ground before the ball was intercepted. That being said, I’m not sure exactly what the rule states. Technically, the ball was uncatchable for White or his defender since another defender was between him and the ball (by a sizeable margin) but in normal circumstances, that would have had to been flagged. There may be a rule against that. Then there was the pick at the end of the game, which shouldn’t even really count for much. Since they do count against stats, nothing we can do. The Tony G. pick was actually a spot-on throw, but Vilma made a super athletic play on the ball. Again, nothing you can do about that. Most LBs would’ve whiffed on it.

Speaking of picks, Brent Grimes is a monster. Holy expletives. I can’t believe how high he jumped. Glad to see Turner have a monster game. We’ll rebound. I hate to call this a “moral victory” but dang if we weren’t close to stopping the Saints.

by Zippo729 on Nov 4, 2009 3:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dear Lord I hate FALCONS SORRY

Idiot flamers like that ought to be banned.

by orion12 on Nov 4, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You won't find him here, thankfully.

We’d ban him in a heartbeat. That was likely him in the thread Monday night.

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by tlozwarlock on Nov 4, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can handle negativity

But not sustained, outright idiocy.

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by Dave the Falconer on Nov 5, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That coverage on the Colston TD by Hill was actually pretty good. His hand was in good position, but Colston has a ridiculous ability to twist mid-air and hold on to the ball.

by acie4mvp on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I honestly think Brees makes his receivers better.

They had some amazing catches. Hill and Houston were in good coverage spots on the big catches, but they were a) perfect throws and b) great catches.

Not much you can do about that.

by Zippo729 on Nov 4, 2009 3:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to get upset

By that loss. They play like that every week and we make the playoffs. Yeah, we had a few bad calls and Ryan was off but all in all a very good effort

by zooker on Nov 3, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I do agree with orion12 about Elam though

I’m starting to think he’s done

by zooker on Nov 3, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Falcons played tough and well enough to win

Only a few bad calls kept us from victory

by WarWolf on Nov 3, 2009 11:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't all bad calls...

I think the bad calls just about equaled out. I think Vilme made a play to tip the pass, and Roddy couldn’t pull in the TD in the end zone. Big games often come down to who makes plays like these.

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by NaGaNole on Nov 4, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Elam

The Elam situation seems simple enough to solve. If he hits them in practice, he should hit them in games — he’s not going to get rattled like a rookie would. If he’s not making them in practice, for whatever reason, then we need to find a new kicker.

by Ed Edwina on Nov 4, 2009 11:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Saints Fan here

Tough game, it was a nail biter all the way down to the wire, just wanted to say good job to you guys.

Bad calls….I agree with the bad call of holding for that Reggie pass….I think it was called on the wrong person, just to the right of Reggie was Marques Colston and your CB was holding the sh*& out of him before the ball was in the air….Roddy white in the endzone had both players looking at the ball and tripping over each other. And just to throw it out there, you all know that was a hella big push off from White on Jabari greer for that 68 yarder he had. The broadcasters called it and we all saw it, made greer stumble two feet towards the hash marks.

That being said, calls went both ways, for us and against us and it was damn good game, tough and down to the wire, see you guys in a few weeks

by Lil_joe692 on Nov 4, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

See you then!

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