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Post Game Thread: Falcons Rise From Grave, Deal Bucs 20-17 Defeat

Apologies to The Grinch, but the three words which best describe that game were as follows, and I quote: Stink, stank, stunk.

The fact that the Atlanta Falcons walked out of there with a win was, frankly, a miracle. You rarely see a team lose so many starters to injury in one game, play like a team of soccer players learning the American version of football for the first time and still pull out the victory. It was the kind of finish that necessitates someone blasting you with a dart full of elephant tranquilizer so you don't go insane and destroy Tokyo. I'm too jazzed up to make sense. Be patient with me.

But the win does not mask a host of failings from the Falcons that must be addressed if we're going to have a prayer of hanging in for the rest of the schedule. My advice is to soak this one in, enjoy the fact that we somehow actually won it, and then begin preparing for an ugly week ahead. While you're here, some pennies for my thoughts?

  • Chris Redman came in and essentially willed the Falcons to victory, with an enormous amount of help from Tony Gonzalez, Michael Jenkins and Roddy White. The passing game was the only thing working well today, and it eventually ended up saving the Falcons. Big ups to all of them.
  • Jason Elam must go. I'm aware of the limitations of the other options out there, but it's time. He very, very nearly cost us the game.
  • The defense clamped down when it counted in the second half, but they never made it look easy. If not for that missed field goal by Tampa Bay, we might be having a different conversation, but it could have been a lot worse the way Josh Freeman was playing.
  • We're going to delve into this more deeply in the near future, but the injuries were crushing. The decision to play Michael Turner today is at the top of a short list of things this coaching staff has done that are indefensibly dumb, but I would love to hear a reason.
  • ....Holy crap! We won!

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a win is a win

and besides not many team would have won without there Starting QB RB LT and RG

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

man ill kick for the falcons

give me a week and 20 bucks i really hope Elam is cut tomorrow

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

lol I would do it for free

And still would do a better job than Jason “I have pasted my Prime” Elam

by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Nov 29, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Vanderjack

…Or my little sister!

Either one would be an upgrade

by VaTechDirtybird on Nov 29, 2009 6:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

After hearing Funballad's scouting report on Coutu

I’m inclined to lean toward Steve Hauschka. He’s got the NFL leg, and I believe the mental issues he was having can be easily sorted out.

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by Dave Choate on Nov 29, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

agree

+ he’s already played in the NFL

by Gemini-RU on Nov 29, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Ravens were too quick to cut ties with him

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by Dave Choate on Nov 29, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

stink bomb

why, why, why play turner indeed?
Elam, thanks for all you have done but it’s time for us to go our separate ways. and give us some of that $4million back. thanks.

i’m just hoping for 9 wins at this point. i think that will go a long way for this team.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly

by armchair quarterback on Nov 29, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

who is game MVP

prob Tony G and game. LVP Elam again

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

I vote Elam for MVP. He made 2 of 3 kicks and both extra points.

Elam’s last miss set up the dramatic 2 minute drive at the end that was more exciting to see that anything.

Without that Elam miss, we would not have been able to witness one of the greatest all time comeback drives in NFL history.

Besides, this is a team, and we have to rally behind Elam.

He is 4th all time in most made FGs.

by WarWolf on Nov 29, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta go with Redman.

He manned up ,,, but just in time.

How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!

by AnOldBird on Nov 29, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

He deserves it. He came in and played well.

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"

by Zippo729 on Nov 29, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, Red Bird was all guts and accurate, tough, and resourceful

by WarWolf on Nov 30, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Another great win for the Dirty Birds !

No other NFL team could have won after injuries to their starting QB, RB, LT and RG.

Falcons showed the same guts and courage as they had vs NY in the 4th quarter. They never gave up even when still behind with 30 seconds to play.

by WarWolf on Nov 29, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

Danm it Elam!!!!

cant we just punt or go for it?? i’m going to lose it if i see another missed field goal!!

by andrew783 on Nov 29, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

you wont have to

cuz hopefully by tomorrow he wont be on the team

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That miss by Elam

Was really the Holders fault. There was a fumble and everything was out of sync, I dont think you can blame it entirely on him.

You can never have enough depth.

by Grayson on Nov 29, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

it might be the long snappers

fault cuz he was put in mid season we lost our original who i dont remember

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I think

Some people forget its a unit and I can recall a number of ocassions where the holder fumbled the snap

You can never have enough depth.

by Grayson on Nov 29, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

yea but by now

i mean he missed wat 6 FGs thats way to many for a guy that all he has to do is kick

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

he was 10/16 before this game

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly

by armchair quarterback on Nov 29, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I was surprised we didn't draft a kicker.

Elam aint the youngest of the group.

You can never have enough depth.

by Grayson on Nov 29, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

yea but

cant kicker last til they are like 50 i know Morten Anderson was up there in age and Feagles with the giants is almost 50 i think

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Feagles is a punter, to be fair

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by Dave Choate on Nov 29, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yea but a punter

does more he actually gets hit sometimes and if the ball is returned they actually attempt to tackle

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

True

But I do think Feagles and Andersen are outliers. Not many guys make it that close to 50 and are still good enough to keep a job.

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by Dave Choate on Nov 29, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

yea true

im just so sick of Elam missing kicks every week now and they are important kicks

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

If my math is right....

That leaves him at around 63%. Steve Hauschka was fired for hitting 75% of his kicks.

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by Dave Choate on Nov 29, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I think there's blame to go around there

As has been the case with other Elam kicks, but he’s not adjusting. If the Falcons truly believe it’s a snapping issue, they need to find another long snapper, but I think Elam’s gotta go, too.

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by Dave Choate on Nov 29, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course

Elam needs to adjust on the kick. But people are acting like hes a complete bum. Id say about 85% bum haha

You can never have enough depth.

by Grayson on Nov 29, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a better bum-to-awesome ratio, I think

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by Dave Choate on Nov 29, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

wait a second

we have a defense?

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly

by armchair quarterback on Nov 29, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

No a pack of bum's

According to the ratio.

You can never have enough depth.

by Grayson on Nov 29, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont care whos fault it is

anymore we cant win without a kicker,
Fire them all i dont care just fix it for gods sake

by andrew783 on Nov 29, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Lets move on from the kicking.

We need to find a DB or some pass rush.

You can never have enough depth.

by Grayson on Nov 29, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

The USS Babineaux is our best pass rusher

And he’s a defensive tackle. That shouldn’t happen.

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by Dave Choate on Nov 29, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

yea Abe

has disappeared this year other then the first game he has been a non factor

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Our Defense is what it is

We’re not fixing anything this late in the year. It’s encouraging that our run defense has started to gel nicely, but as far as issues in our pass defense, we’re just not going to find solutions. We’re going to have to start winning in spite of them.

We MIGHT be able to find solutions in the kicking game. I feel bad for Elam because he’s a nice guy, but being nice doesn’t make the kicks he’s missing hurt any less.

As for this game, it was sloppy and we looked like the Thanksgiving week got in our minds a tad too much. We’re 6-5 but it’s an ugly 6-5. What we need is for none of the injuries to hinder us much, go back to the drawing board, and prepare for the home game next week against an Eagles team that is definitely beatable.

Thank you for winning this game Chris Redman.

by LetsGoFalcons on Nov 29, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen!

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by Dave Choate on Nov 29, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this was "the game we couldn't give away."

Lord knows we tried.

How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!

by AnOldBird on Nov 29, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd like to see sidbury

get some more reps. i think biermann has upside and is developing. walker has been solid when he plays..

i was optimistic when the season started that this defense would get better as the season chugged along. however, they seem to have peeked somewhere around the saints game and have just struggled since then.. there’s not really any FA help out there imo. we’re just going to have to hope these guys step up.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly

by armchair quarterback on Nov 29, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Kroy Babs and Abe got pressure in late – only 1 sack, but a bunch of hurries.

by WarWolf on Nov 29, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony G showed again why he is a hall of famer today.

Many key grabs in traffic down the stretch.

http://sites.google.com/site/gonzofansite/

There is the fan site I made for him last night. If you want to see some of his other highlight films. One video has a song by 50 Cent that you may want to turn volume down for if you do not like offensive language tho. I had to use that video because it has too many good plays to miss.

by WarWolf on Nov 29, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Here are the stats for the game from NFL.com.

TB is on the left and Atlanta on the right.

I thought our defense played great today. Tough against the run.

Total First Downs 13 Total First Downs 21
By Rushing 2 By Rushing 3
By Passing 11 By Passing 16
By Penalty By Penalty
Third Down Efficiency 3/12 – 25% Third Down Efficiency 5/16 – 31%
Fourth Down Efficiency 0/1 – 0% Fourth Down Efficiency 2/2 – 100%
Total Net Yards 318 Total Net Yards 297
Total Rushing/Passing Plays (includes Sacks) 57 Total Rushing/Passing Plays (includes Sacks) 76
Average Gain per Offensive Play 5.6 Average Gain per Offensive Play 3.9
Net Yards Rushing 73 Net Yards Rushing 75
Total Rushing Plays 26 Total Rushing Plays 26
Average Gain per Rushing Play 2.8 Average Gain per Rushing Play 2.9
Tackled for a Loss (Number-Yards) 2—4 Tackled for a Loss (Number-Yards) 5—14
Net Yards Passing 245 Net Yards Passing 222
Times Sacked (Number-Yards) 1 – 5 Times Sacked (Number-Yards) 6 – 36
Gross Yards Passing 250 Gross Yards Passing 258
Pass Comp-Att-Int 20 – 30 – 0 Pass Comp-Att-Int 25 – 44 – 0
Average Gain per Passing Play (includes Sacks) 7.9 Average Gain per Passing Play (includes Sacks) 4.4
Kickoffs (Number-In End Zone-Touchbacks) 4 – 1 – 0 Kickoffs (Number-In End Zone-Touchbacks) 5 – 5 – 3
Punts (Number-Average) 6 – 41.0 Punts (Number-Average) 5 – 40.2
Blocked 0 Blocked 1
Net Punting Average 34.7 Net Punting Average 36.0
FGs Blocked – PATs Blocked 0 – 0 FGs Blocked – PATs Blocked 0 – 0
Total Return Yardage (excludes Kickoffs) 21 Total Return Yardage (excludes Kickoffs) 18
Punt Returns (Number-Yards) 1 – 21 Punt Returns (Number-Yards) 1 – 18
Kickoff Returns (Number-Yards) 2 – 43 Kickoff Returns (Number-Yards) 4 – 76
Interception Returns (Number-Yards) 0 – 0 Interception Returns (Number-Yards) 0 – 0
Penalties (Number-Yards) 8 – 52 Penalties (Number-Yards) 3 – 29
Fumbles (Number-Lost) 2 – 1 Fumbles (Number-Lost) 1 – 1
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 2
Rushing 0 Rushing 0
Passing 2 Passing 2
Interceptions 0 Interceptions 0
Kickoff Returns 0 Kickoff Returns 0
Fumble Returns 0 Fumble Returns 0
Punt Returns 0 Punt Returns 0
Extra Points (Made-Attempted) 2 – 2 Extra Points (Made-Attempted) 2 – 2
Kicking (Made-Attempted) 2 – 2 Kicking (Made-Attempted) 2 – 2
Two Point Conversions (Made-Attempted) 0 – 0 Two Point Conversions (Made-Attempted) 0 – 0
Field Goals (Made-Attempted) 1 – 2 Field Goals (Made-Attempted) 2 – 3
Red Zone Efficiency 1/2 – 50% Red Zone Efficiency 1/3 – 33%
Goal To Go Efficiency 1/1 – 100% Goal To Go Efficiency 1/1 – 100%
Safeties 0 Safeties 0
Final Score 17 Final Score 20
Time of Possession 28:24 Time of Possession 31:36

by WarWolf on Nov 29, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

Ummm

Nevermind – numbers all got jumbled when I posted.

by WarWolf on Nov 29, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

it does make a point

but it’s the big plays that are killing. 3rd and longs have been an achilles heel. and as someone posted in the game thread, this defense has given up the most 20+ yard plays of any team. fix the big play issue and that would make a huge difference.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly

by armchair quarterback on Nov 29, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

True enough.

But we only gave up 17 points and 318 yards, which usually is good enough to win.

That blocked kick where TB started on our 9 and got 7 is what hurt us.

Falcons actually had about 20 more offensive plays today because the D kept getting them the ball back.

by WarWolf on Nov 29, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely shows positives and negatives

Our run defense has been much improved as of late. In that realm we have a lot of young talent that’s getting a lot of good experience. We’re not rushing the passer that well and probably need to go about getting a real ballhawk there in the draft or through FA in the offseason, but I think we’ve done a good job getting some youthful depth at the DL/DE spots. Babs is a playmaker, and we need one more playmaker at the DE position. Don’t forget we’re getting Jerry back at the end of the year as well.

We took a gamble that the left corner would work itself out. That gamble failed and it’s ended up hurting us. I like Owens’ potential, but he’s not ready for the big time yet. The other 3 to 4 guys are good nickel backs, but not good enough guys to be every down CBs. It’s made our secondary very unstable and is leading to big plays.

Let’s be a bit positive though about our position. Arizona last year was 8-8 and was considered to be the worst team in the playoffs. They got hot and went to the Super Bowl. Despite our best efforts to ruin our chances, we’re still in a position to make a run at the playoffs. It’s going to entail a much better offensive effort, however.

by LetsGoFalcons on Nov 29, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Jerry is done for the year!

And hopefully Elam is too

by VaTechDirtybird on Nov 29, 2009 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Pardon me, I meant that we get Jerry back next season

The point was to highlight that we still have young talent coming back

by LetsGoFalcons on Nov 29, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to hire Lovie Smith after Da Bears fire him.

When he concentrates on defense, he’s terrific.

How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!

by AnOldBird on Nov 29, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm not a bad idea

Did Smitty work with him at any time in the past?

by brotherbrown on Nov 29, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure, but I don't think so.

Smith was with the Ravens and Jags. I think Love was with the Bucs and the Rams.

How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!

by AnOldBird on Nov 29, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea he would help

And Charlie Wiess is about to get fired at Notre Dame he’s a great offensive coordinator in the pro’s .
I’m not sure i want a div. rival with that good of coaching

by simone219 on Nov 29, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Philly lost the giants lost

we gain alittle ground in the wildcard gotta be happy about that

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

philly won

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly

by armchair quarterback on Nov 29, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

they won

crap i thought washington put up a fight

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Right now

We need to worry about Philly and Green Bay. Those two are the biggest threats to a Falcon playoff berth.

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by Dave Choate on Nov 29, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yea man

i wish philly had lost oh well we gotta take care of them hopefully todays injuries are just a day to day thing and not to serious execpt for turner he might be done

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

me too

we’re just not getting any breaks atm.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly

by armchair quarterback on Nov 29, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

We need Dallas to keep excelling and the G-Men to keep sliding

If we can top Philly next week, and Dallas can do what we need it to against the Giants, then we’ll be in the #6 slot with any losses Green Bay takes being gravy.

Of the final 5 games, the Philly game is the most important because of the tiebreaker we need to get. But it may be equally important that we ruin a Saints undefeated season (assuming they beat the Patriots tonight). Obviously every loss by the Giants, Green Bay, and Philly is huge for our hopes, but there’s very little room for error this late in the year.

by LetsGoFalcons on Nov 29, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

lets take it one at a time

and next game is the biggest game – win that and we’re one step closer. we don’t want it the ugly way, although it would be great help if Chicago fights until the end in the GB game and so do PIT and BAL, and yes, Dallas needs to keep winning in the NFC East…

by Gemini-RU on Nov 29, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Skins almost pulled it off but lost by 3 I think.

by WarWolf on Nov 29, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

He will be throwing the ball to our DB’s allnight

by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Sigh

I miss the humble Saints fans. Don’t make me go get the bag with eye holes…

Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll.

by iRonin on Nov 29, 2009 7:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Geaux home

Eat some jambalaya, and keep to your own buddy. I’ll remember this when the Saints blow the first game of the playoffs.

by LetsGoFalcons on Nov 29, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I JUST

Came over to congradulate ya’ll on the great win over a div. rival

by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

And I hope your prophecy comes true “He will be throwing the ball to our DB’s allnight”. Even though you are in our division, I would much prefer the pats to get stomped.
So…good luck tomorrow!

by muuzilla on Nov 29, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't realize we'd traded Chris Redman to the Bucs just now.

In other words, get the freak out.

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"

by Zippo729 on Nov 29, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

LIGHTEN UP

Ya’ll won the game we wont clinch the div. till next week

by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 29, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Falcons were 2 for 2 on 4th down on the final drive for the winning TD :)

by WarWolf on Nov 29, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions  

They were also 1 for 1 at causing heart attacks in each and every Falcon fan's heart.

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"

by Zippo729 on Nov 29, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You didn't???

Haha.

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"

by Zippo729 on Nov 29, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

With TG on the team, I have no doubts

by WarWolf on Nov 30, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

conflicted...

obviously a win is never a BAD thing, but what troubles me is that this was the easiest of our remaining 6 games, and we STILL barely won. i’m not sure what that means for the rest of the season. the more optimistic side of me says “hey, this will be the spark that gets things going and we’ll be the Cardinals of last year”… the more pessimistic side of me says “we just aren’t a very good football team and this win is just delaying the inevitable letdown”.

no clue what to think right now. but i’m relieved we didn’t lose to the #$@%ing Bucs at home.

by the way, my ideal season at this point (other than a Falcons Superbowl run, which is hopelessly unrealistic at this point) is that the Saints go undefeated, inflate their already ridiculous egos, and then get pummeled by Indy in the Superbowl. it will be the kind of satisfaction i had when NY did it to the Pats a few years back. so in a weird way i’m actually pulling for the Saints tomorrow night.

by cheshire falcon on Nov 29, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

I'd be more satisfied if Brett Favre pummeled them in the NFC Champ game.

I just like the old man. He’s playin like he’s half his age.

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"

by Zippo729 on Nov 29, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe we should have kept Favre as a back up …

by WarWolf on Nov 29, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

maybe we should have never traded him.

by Whyte Bler 000 on Nov 29, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I think Favre and Schaub would come in handy right now

But not to worry -

Vick is coming back to the Dome next week

by WarWolf on Nov 30, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

We played well last week. We had a slew of crippling injuries today, don’t forget that.

We’ve played well at times (@NO, @NYG, for example), and don’t forget we won 11 games last year, easy schedule or not. We’re doing alright this year. I think expectations were set a little too high, but I don’t think anyone really realized how brutal the schedule would be and also you can’t predict injuries. Like they say, (crap) happens. We got a W, we’re still pretty banged up, but we’re still in contention. All I want is 9 wins and no permanent injuries. Playoffs would be icing on the cake at this point.

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"

by Zippo729 on Nov 29, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Obviously not a good performance

But this is a game the old Falcons would have lost. They had all the excuses – Ryan, Turner, Baker and Dahl all out and the kicking team looked pathetic (blocked punt, missed FG).

No way we win in the old days. But we did today. Don’t know what if anything that means for the rest of the season but it does show spirit.

by zooker on Nov 29, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

true

like in the old days we would have rolled over and just gave this game up atleast the team is trying to win cant blame them for that

by Erihury on Nov 29, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The closeness of the game against a team as bad as the Bucs was frustrating, but I’m a firm believer that anything can happen when it comes to division games. Even a terrible team is always a risk to take down a superior division rival and I would not have called this the easiest game left on our schedule. The narrow win here doesn’t concern me as much as it would have against a crappy team from another division, especially given that TB played probably their best game of the season and we were playing with our backup QB and without Turner for most of the game. Both teams struggled in spots and shone in others, but the outcome was that we got it together and got ourselves back above .500, which is where we want to be. We’re still in the running for a winning season and we still have a longshot at the wildcard, which is not a bad spot for us to be in right now. If anything, this game showed that the Falcons still have some fight in them and aren’t going to go down easily.

by Mountvillainy on Nov 29, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

One good drive against a terrible team does not a season make

Falcons have played mediocre at best for 4 weeks running. We don’t seem to have the defensive personnel to stop anyone’s QB, even Tampa! How that translates into playoffs eludes me. Perhaps we get lucky (I hope so) but this team’s personnel will be fortunate to finish 9-7 IMO.

by tom slick on Nov 29, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

But...in the NFL

The W is what counts. We’re not finished yet.

We’ve got flaws all over the map, but so does every team in the NFC not named the New Orleans and Minnesota.

by LetsGoFalcons on Nov 29, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Whatever struggles we have had this season—and we’ve experienced more than our fair share—don’t matter in the long run. Two things matter: where we are right now, and where we go from here. Our record doesn’t know whether we dominated or barely squeaked by, or whether we got blown out or lost a heartbreaker. All it knows is 6 wins, 5 losses. This is not a bad record for what we are trying to do with this season, which is come out with a winning record and possibly a wildcard spot. The win today, no matter how ugly, keeps us where we want to be. Do we need to be more consistent if we want to acheive our goal? Yeah, probably. Will we improve going forward? I don’t know, we haven’t played those games yet. Ultimately five more games means five more chances to WIN, and anything can happen. It wouldn’t be exciting if it was easy.

by Mountvillainy on Nov 29, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You hit it right on the head, my friend!

by falconplanet on Nov 30, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with everything you said.

by falconplanet on Nov 30, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

All I got to watch was that last TD drive

Aside from seeing on my phone that Redman was the QB and not Ryan, and then seeing that familiar “Elam 43 yrd kick NO GOOD”.
But judging by the numbers I can see that Freeman had one of the best games in his short career. Did our secondary show up?

by Gemini-RU on Nov 29, 2009 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

Some info on Turner

My dad told me that he heard that Turner sprained the same ankle, but in a different area than the part that was already injured. I don’t know if his previous sprain had anything to do with that or not. (It probably did.) But if it didn’t, then it was just purely coincidence. Still, I wouldn’t have played him regardless.

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by Zippo729 on Nov 29, 2009 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

my take

On paper of the three home games this one against TB did appear to be the easiest of the three.
I do agree with Turner should have rested and starting him now seems dumb, and BVG needs to go like Elam or some kind of Change.
Tampa Bay learned what they needed to do with their defense and fired their DC.
I kinda had an idea this could be a more closer game that expected but wasn’t really sure, because Tampa has played much more competitive since their by week again GB winning, taking Miami a good team to a brink of defeat on the road, and had NO for a ride for a moment until they blew it away. Josh Freeman looks really good and plays better than all of the QB, he’s like a Matt Ryan of some sorts.
And then when I heard TB has Raheem Morris calling the plays and according to Charles Davis what he’s known for and what he can do, it fits what the players can still do, Tampa 2, and speed, what they are familiar with, and look what familiarity does for Tampa. If only they played that way from the start. Tampa may have found their groove as well as Morris (like how Zorn wanted to call the plays for WSH – however that’s a bad point because it didn’t work out) Falcons offense and team is banged up, inconsistent, can’t make big plays, vanilla coaching, not in harmony, and for second straight year the Bucs block another punt from Atlanta. All this equals the game we saw today. When you think about it, it’s really not surprising why the Falcons played the way they did today.
For reason the falcons always get a different harder fight bucs team than everyone else.
In 2008, we were the only NFC South team to face TB with Brian Griese a conservative QB, Carolina, and New Orleans got to see Garcia in both of their games, who’s more turnover proned, which could have played more into the falcons hands, although they scored more with Garcia.

by brotherbrown on Nov 29, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

news on Ryan

looks like its a ligament in his toe that was hurt and he is getting an mri i hope its nothing to bad

by Erihury on Nov 30, 2009 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

i hope so too

but redman isnt a total loss if need arrises. any news on turner?

by Funballad on Nov 30, 2009 12:34 AM EST reply actions  

One down, five to go

A win is a win, no matter how ugly it is. Give credit to Tampa, they came ready to play. Now, I’m getting sick and tired of this second guessing about whether or not to play Turner. The staff made the decision to go as did Michael. He got hurt again, it’s part of football, so let it go please. As far as Elam goes, yes, he did miss the one kick, but the other two he did make, and that was the difference in the game. It’s not all him. I think its more Pittman, the long snapper, than anything else, it throws off timing. Chris looked good subbing for Matt, and I’m not worried about him. Hopefully, Matt and Michael can get back next week. If not, oh well. The D looked crummy at times, great at others. Didn’t like the two big plays Tampa pulled to score the touch. The Falcons simply won’t give up, and you got to like that in a team. We won, that’s what matters here, and that’s one down, five to go, and three more for the magic number 9 for the back to bac winning seasons. Have Faith, and let’s now get ready for the Eagles….

by falconplanet on Nov 30, 2009 12:54 AM EST reply actions  

I'm sorry, I disagree about Turner

Because I firmly believe it was the wrong decision. Yes, it’s a part of football that he got hurt again, but the chances of that happening were increased by orders of magnitude because he was playing so soon after suffering the injury. I’m not willing or able to let that one go so easily.

Everything else you said, basically, I agree with.

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by Dave Choate on Nov 30, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

agree

I can understand the rationale – if the player feels he can play and he has some big games coming up, you don’t want to lose his rhythm.
But the way Snelling was filling in in the previous game there was no need to take additional risk of re-injuring a top player.

by Gemini-RU on Nov 30, 2009 6:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Rebuttal

I think it was the wrong decision as well. I’m just tired of all talk. Just trying to make a point about it. Let’s move on from here and get ready for the Eagles, who may not have Desean Jackson next week. We’ll have to see. I was suprised to see Turner in there at all on Sunday…

by falconplanet on Nov 30, 2009 1:12 AM EST reply actions  

A win

is a win. Sure we looked like crap warmed over, but hey we had Redman at QB. this guy sucks really badly. We were lucky that we made that deal to get Gonzo or we would have lost that game. Minus Gonzo that final drive would not have been possible. thanks to Roddy for making a nice catch in the endzone as well. I am not really upset about this one. we won. sure some things need to be changed. Elam has to go for sure. Its on to the Philly game now. If Ryan cant go we are screwed. Redman cannot beat the Beagles.

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by Hardcore Falcon on Nov 30, 2009 8:48 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Le Sigh

It wasn’t a very good holiday weekend for the Atlanta teams. Well, except for the Thrashers, I think they won all their games, but no one is watching them, so w/e.

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 30, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

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