Falcons are trying out kickers
AJC reports that the Falcons have brought in four kickers to compete for Elam's job. Notably, Brandon Coutu was invited. Also trying out were Steve Hauschka, Sam Swant and Shane Andrus. I'm sorry to see this for Elam's sake, but it seems that it may be time for a change with all of the recent misses.
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Coutu definitely got it done
for the Doggies. As far as I know, the goalposts are the same width and he’s already shown he can deal with the pressure. Sucks for Elam but place kicking is a cut throat position.
by zooker on Nov 24, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Coutu and Hauschka are my first choices
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by Dave the Falconer on Nov 24, 2009 2:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hauschka
didn’t he struggle with misses in Baltimore? I don’t know how much of an improvement that would be.
by orion12 on Nov 25, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He missed 4 FG's this season already
Two of which were between 30 and 40 yrds. His longest kick this season was for only 44 yrds, although last year he made one from 54. This doesn’t necessarily mean he’s bad since we don’t know the reasons for those misses.
Both of them would at this point be better than Elam, simply because any change in the position we’re struggling would be a morale boost for the whole team.
Coutu is yet to make a kick in the NFL – he might be overall better than Hauschka (comparing his college performance to Hauschka’s NFL performance) but also… riskier? What I mean is that he’d be coming in at the point in time when the Falcons have no margin of error left, which places huge pressure on the kicker with zero NFL starts. so the most important factor in choosing would be the head of the kicker, not his leg.
by Gemini-RU on Nov 25, 2009 6:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaks well of the Falcons' mindset
Still trying to improve, great to see that. Some teams would stubbornly stick with their earlier decision, so as not to appear to admit they were wrong.
by tom slick on Nov 24, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see them address the problem...
…unfortunately it’s about 3 weeks too late.
We’ve been in two or three games where missed field goals bit us in the end. If we’d gotten even one of those games in the win column we’d still be the playoff hunt.
by Samuel L. Bronkowitz on Nov 24, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we’d still be the playoff hunt
Last time I checked, we still are. Now if they hurry up and sign Coutu, we can all move on with our lives.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 24, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nanananaheyheyhey peace out
gud luck finding a new job but i hav no remorse. made the same mistake twice and cost us crusial points.
by DEMBIRDZCUZ! on Nov 24, 2009 4:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
About time
Now if they could only do the same for cornerbacks
by Fear Me on Nov 24, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Settle down now ...
There is nothing wrong with our CBs. It is the absence of a #1 CB, poor defensive play calling, poor coaching that have proven problematic.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 24, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and poor coaching (it should have read)
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 24, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Um ... no
Put me to point. Give me a rationale argument.
The fact is that we’d have 1-2 guys that could viably compete for the #2, and Grimsey (as many here have observed) would be one of the better nickel corners in the league. Jackson will develop with time, and Hill has shown us what he can bring to the table.
I understand the frustration with Houston, but “turning around” (simply stated) is not his problem. It is his ability to differentiate between fake eye movement/stutters/arm fakes and legit attempts to go for the ball. That is something that can and should be coached out of a young kid like him.
Absent Williams, our personnel is lacking – that I can see – but the answer is signing a FA veteran corner in the off season, not firing our entire CB corps. Thanks and come again.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 24, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure...its pretty simple
1) Houston is in his third year and is STILL makingrookie moves. To say that a coach had to tell a cornerback to turn his head is like telling a quarterback that he has to make passes. That is the most basic thing that any cornerback should know. That’s Pop Warner. And you can’t tell me that you think he’s developing. Wha
2) Tye Hill has not and I repeat has not shown us anything. He was benched for Grimes. I agree with you that Grimes is a good athlete and may be beeter at nickle back but that means he’s a #3 CB at best. I wouldn’t get rid of him but he is NOT a starter.
3) Jackson developing into a starter is not likely. He’s in nickle packages now. We both just agreed that Grimes is better at nickle. Jackson is extremely slow in both reaction to the ball and foot speed. Two things that decent CBs need. If they show the game again on NFL network, please watch it and you’ll see what I’m talking about
4) Williams was the best corner we have but guess what…he won’t be ready until about mid-season next year, an ACL injury takes at least a year to heal, and he’s going to be 31 coming off an injury.
I understand that you’re a fan, but you can’t keep looking through your rose-colored glasses. Nice try but no cigars.
by Fear Me on Nov 25, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
We obviously don’t see the existing personnel the same way, and that is fine. Good day sir.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
... and by different, this is what I mean:
You seemingly want to do away with the entire CB corps, with the possible exception being Grimes.
I never said Jackson should start, never said that about Hill either. I said that with a #1 CB and a different DC, the rest of the CB corps would fit in well. We are basically advocating the same thing, and regardless of what you think is right, I guarantee you that three of Grimes, Jackson, Hill, and Houston will be here next year.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm late to the game here
But I’ve got to say that Brian Williams definitely was NOT our best corner. He was actually the worst of the three (Houston, Grimes, Williams) from the early games (before he got hurt). I’ve got my numbers, plus the numbers from Pro Football Focus to back that up. I haven’t had time to chart & compile the games since Hill’s gotten significant playing time – but from the eyeball test (and the fact that the coaches yanked him back out of the line-up) he’s not the answer.
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by orang3b on Nov 30, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
orang3b!
You’ve been scarce of late. How’s it going?
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by Dave the Falconer on Nov 30, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holiday
Sorry, I didn’t realize I’d drop off the face of the virtual earth. I’ve been in Saints country for a week (+) with the in-laws. Not much time to check-in, what with all the food and Dora the Explorer (3 young nieces). But now I’m back – with a vengance!
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by orang3b on Nov 30, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One more observation:
Absent any kind of pass rush, any group of corners would struggle.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 24, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IMO, both you guys have it right. We need to put more pressure on other QBs and get a solid #1 guy in the secondary. The rest should work itself out.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Nov 24, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you paid attention
to the Giants game, particularly the first quarter, we had a pass rush but Eil still threw the ball all over the place. So the defense had to try to make some adjustments to account for the lack of corner play and they started hitting us underneath—Boss may ring a bell. So restated…our corners are not good and that needs to be first thing addressed in the off-season.
A bit of a weaker try and still no cigars.
by Fear Me on Nov 25, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Check!
Haterade is a bitter drink buddy. But you sip it all you want.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do we really need to get so chippy here?
I mean, I threw out my opinion, and you come back with a “are you kidding?” I apologize for the slightly snarky response, but I’d appreciate a reasoned response (as you eventually provided above) as opposed to a “are you kidding?”
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boss going nuts
And the underneath stuff was more of a problem from the Safeties and Linebackers – in particular Erik Coleman.
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by orang3b on Nov 30, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well
that plus the fact that Chris Houston sucks out loud…
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by Hardcore Falcon on Nov 25, 2009 7:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't have said
it better myself. I really think that we’re only 2-3 people from having a dominating defense. A corner and a pass rushing DE. I like Biermann and Abe but I think we may need one more. I liked what I saw from Jerry before he got hurt. That guy stayed in the backfield.
by Fear Me on Nov 25, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hardcore
I’m not sure if you’re half joking when you repeatedly say this, but why is it that the coaches keep changing the LCB spot, but are leaving Houston alone? He’s not a “shutdown” corner – there’s only a handful of those in the whole league, but the bigger problem is on the other side of the field…
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by orang3b on Nov 30, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FINALLY
cut Elam sign someone who can make easy FGs
by Erihury on Nov 24, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Coutu, Do for my Birds whatcha did for my Dawgs!
Sorry Elam, but your leg has cost us enough this year. Enjoy your retirement :)
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by HEYJUDE on Nov 24, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Will a new kicker be eligable...
…to play in the Superbowl?
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!
by AnOldBird on Nov 24, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why they wouldn't be.
You saying that has me curious. What rule is there to prevent a new player from playing?
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by Zippo729 on Nov 24, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
None
bs comment of the day above
Life is a garden. Dig it!
by Hardcore Falcon on Nov 25, 2009 7:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
must I
agree w/ FRANKY again , one thing I would change though , is that its not just Houston not turning to the ball – all our corners seem to want face check the recievers and if thats true it would be coaching . I really don’t know who the BIRDS secondary coach is , and maybe I’m wrong , but thats where I lay alot of that problem .
by TRUBIRD1 on Nov 24, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Birds secondary coach
…is Emmitt Thomas, a Hall of Fame defensive back.
Believe me, I guarantee he’s coaching them the right way. Whether the players are doing what he teaches correctly or not is a different story.
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by Zippo729 on Nov 24, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is not a direct knock on Thomas
… I still appreciate the way he rallied our team after Petrino sought REDder pastures.
But even the best coaches, the sure fire and current HOFers, cannot always get through to certain groups. Not saying that is what is happening here, but it’s certainly a possibility.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
... along those lines
It may very well be that some of our corners are resistant to or ignore quality coaching – like you suggested – definitely a possibility.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't necessarily chalk it up to them ignoring it
I don’t know. You think at some point they’d start listening and trying what the coach tells them. The man is 9th all time with 58 INTs, something along those lines.
I know everyone’s saying Houston sucks this, or Grimes is too small that, but to be completely honest, I haven’t been watching the Birds on TV long enough to really know what a good DB is supposed to look like. I remember hearing on TV once, “A perfectly thrown ball cannot be defensed.” I saw a lot of undefensible balls thrown in the highlights of the game (minus everything thrown at Kevin Boss. I could make those throws).
I guess the best example would be Vontae Davis. The dude was covering Randy Moss like a champ against NE a couple weeks ago, at least until he got stiff armed. Will Allen is pretty good, too, but they’re both rookies if I’m not mistaken.
I’ve been saying this since before the season started. We need Asomugha and we need him now.
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by Zippo729 on Nov 25, 2009 1:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We need Asomugha and we need him now.
AGREED! AGREED! AGREED!
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the assesment that whatever method Thomas is using to coach/teach technique, it's not working...
We’re seeing Houston making the same mistake week after week. If he’s unwilling or unable to improve, he must be put on the pine. I’d rather take our chances putting Hill and Owens out there. They might get beat, but they have to learn . They need to be ready for next year, when expectations will be really high for this team.
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by NaGaNole on Nov 25, 2009 7:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah
damn good player, possible hall of famer … whose students aren’t turning to the ball
by TRUBIRD1 on Nov 25, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
alright,alright
damn good player, hall famer….whose students aren’t turning to defense the ball
by TRUBIRD1 on Nov 25, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
These posts are really
getting out there. Correct me if I’m wrong but are you implying that Houston is not listening to (ignoring) the coach on purpose? We’re talking about a guy who gets burnt year after year. The best thing for him to do is to listen to the coach. And if that’s the case then Houston, stated earlier in the post, is not good. If he can’t simply listen to the coach then he will never get any better than what he is now. Houston needs to go.
by Fear Me on Nov 25, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So let me paraphrase:
Houston sucks and is completely worthless and needs to go no matter what anyone says … seems rationale enough.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Basically we should just agree to disagree ...
I don’t want to get into a posting war with you. I trust that Houston is our best CB right now, otherwise the coaching staff wouldn’t march him out there week in and week out IMO. I don’t know much about coaching a corner, or judging a corner’s talents, and I certainly don’t see how Houston measures up in practice … so I’ll trust TD and Smitty on this one.
But without a doubt, we need a #1 CB come this off-season, and I think we both agree about that.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly...
Houston sucks. Why else would we BOTH say that we need a #1 corner and to keep Williams (who is a starter) and Grimes? So my question to you is if we need a # 1 corner, then which of the 6 corners will probably not be there next year…Houston, Hill, Grimes, Jackson, Williams, or Owens?
by Fear Me on Nov 25, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough ...
I think it’ll depend on how Williams heals and how Owens progresses. Williams is no spring flower, and Owens has an enormous upside, but we’ll need to see it. I don’t see them giving up on Jackson, so maybe they’ll make him our backup FS.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jackson is a solid backup.
He’s been unfairly thrown into some bad situations this year. I think he’s a good player. He was on LSU’s championship team, if I recall right. He can’t be THAT bad.
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by Zippo729 on Nov 25, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kickers
Isn’t something that these friggin’ football games have to be decided by a kicker’s foot? If the team would get the ball in the end zone in the first place, we wouldn’t be having this conversation now, would we?
by falconplanet on Nov 25, 2009 1:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
The irony of everyone making Brady out to be so good is that all three of his Super Bowl wins (in that streak of 3 of 4) were by 3 points, all of which came on FGs. It’s a shame if you ask me. Brady’s a good QB, but I think he’s hugely overrated.
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by Zippo729 on Nov 25, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Goopd point
but we really need a kicker. He makes me nervous just on the extra point attempts.
by Fear Me on Nov 25, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not start any fights in this thread, fellas
We’re all Falcons fans here.
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by Dave the Falconer on Nov 25, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My apologies Dave ...
It just irks me (and it probably shouldn’t) when people get all chippy on this board for no particular reason. The absence of that kind of stuff is what has attracted me to this board for all this time, and I hate it when people come in trying to funk our vibe, knowwhatI’msayin’?
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's all gravy
I just don’t want anyone getting into legitimate grudge matches on the site. Arguments are good, but…
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by Dave the Falconer on Nov 25, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh please,
people argue their points all the time. As long as it doesn’t get nasty, personal, or has a bunch of cussing then everything’s fine. It’s not like I’m the only one that talk about the huge problem of kicker and cornerbacks that we have. Can’t apologize for stating my opinion.
by Fear Me on Nov 25, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Dave the Falconer on Nov 25, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Island*
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by Zippo729 on Nov 25, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Jungle
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Nov 25, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna sound like a jerk here, but...
… It’s really hard for me to generate a lot of sympathy for Elam. I hate seeing people fail in their careers and i don’t have anything against Elam, but for some reason i have a hard time feeling bad for a kicker (especially this one) the way i would a QB or virtually any other position.
Kickers are important so i don’t mean to demean the position, but i just don’t see any excuse for why Elam can’t do this. I’m not going to say being a kicker is easy because most of us can’t do it, but what I will say is that his task is very simple. It’s not like being a QB where there is tons of prep work, so many facets to the game, etc. If you miss extra points and field goals one week, shouldn’t you be out on the field kicking 1,000 of those things all week to make sure you don’t blow it when it matters? This just seems SO fixable, and the fact that it’s not getting fixed makes me question the guy’s dedication and tenacity just a little bit. Maybe that’s unfair, but i just don’t see another explanation. And on top of that, for him to be blaming the placeholder after each of these things is just baffling. It would make sense if this hadn’t been happening ALL season, but it has and i just have a hard time believing it’s the placeholder everytime.
On top of that, he’s made a ton of $ doing something that’s kind of silly when you think about it, so all of that combined makes it hard for me to feel too bad for the guy. As a fan, i just want to see someone who can kick the $#%@ ball through the goalposts without me having to hold my breathe everytime.
by cheshire falcon on Nov 25, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
he is starting to remond me of former Braves pitcher Mark Wohlers. If you dont remember they guy you can look it up im sure.
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by Hardcore Falcon on Nov 25, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
man I wish I could type...
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by Hardcore Falcon on Nov 25, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As old as he is
maybe his body just isn’t working the same anymore. That stuff happens. It’s not like he’s a hot (as in kicking hot) young prospect fresh outta college. Elam’s one of the best kickers >ever<. I would think that, on this team, he would want to work hard and help the team out. If he’s been hurt or his body isn’t working right, he really should hang up the cleats.
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by Zippo729 on Nov 25, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, i remember him...
that homerun he gave up to Leyritz in the ’96 Series is permanently burned into my mind.
by cheshire falcon on Nov 25, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
seems like even if we get a new kicker, it won't be until the Eagles game...
So says ESPN: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/5531/falcons-working-out-kickers
I was hoping we switch before that so that the new kicker could get a some good kicks in the game few doubt we win…
by Gemini-RU on Nov 25, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Problem, again
Is that if Elam has one or two good weeks and the team doesn’t decide to bring in a kicker, he could go right back down the hole and we’d be back where we started.
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by Dave the Falconer on Nov 25, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we haven't signed anyone this week and haven't released Elam
does that mean it was just a signal to Elam that now he has one last chance?
i trust their decision-making but would question this one – unless none of the four kickers have shown they can kick.
a last chance for Elam basically means one more critical miss and he’s gone – trouble is, a critical miss could mean we’re definitely not watching Atl play in January.
by Gemini-RU on Nov 28, 2009 5:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, just saying
To the arguements over corners
Williams will be back next year and hopefully we will draft a nice rookie corner to compete with Grimes, Jackson, Owens, and (Hopefully not) Houston, to complement him.
by FlyYouFalcons on Nov 25, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We just need a legit #1 corner.
I believe I agree with what’s been going around. We have a bunch of #2 corners, and our #1 corner is the best #2 corner we have. If I recall right, most of the big highlights from the NYG game were thrown away from Houston, which would suggest he was at least doing something right (until he got thrown at). I could be wrong. Relying on the ole’ brain here.
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by Zippo729 on Nov 25, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A late Rec'd for you
For the Houston comments.
But I’d add that if we really have 3-4 guys that are #2 CB quality, then we are in a better position than probably 80% of the NFL teams (I question if some of them are really #2 CB quality, though). And that there’s only a handful of “legit #1” guys in the league right now: Asomugha, Revis, maybe Champ Bailey still, maybe Antoine Winfield when he’s healthy… then guys that are raising their games this year that are on the brink: Jabari Greer, Leon Hall, Corey Webster, etc. Anybody I’m missing?
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by orang3b on Nov 30, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you're missing anyone
I would argue that Leon Hall is already there, though. Teams are very, very reluctant to throw in his direction.
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