Career Passer Ratings, an alternate approach
If you want to tick me off, simply show me a list of the NFL's all-time leaders in career Passer Rating. It's an absolute travesty! You'll find Chad Pennington is ranked higher than Roger Staubach. Jake Delhomme's higher than Sonny Jurgensen and Len Dawson. Brian Griese's "better" than Bart Starr, Dan Fouts and John Elway? Oh, the humanity! What can we, as football fans, DO to repair this injustice, America?
As we all know, the game has changed mightily over the years, with ever-increasing emphasis on the passing game. As a result, Passer Rating numbers have steadily grown as well (from a mean of 59.4 in 1946, to 84.8 last year, up 43%). Naturally, this skews the career numbers toward the more modern QBs that put up higher numbers on average.
I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this, but... it occurred to me that it might be more accurate to adjust the yearly data to correct for this skewing effect. To do this, I calculated the mean Passer Rating (among qualifiers listed at NFL.com) for each year 1946-2008. Then, for each year I created a multiplier to "inflate" that year's Passer Ratings to 2008 levels. For example, for 1946 the multiplier is 1.43 (84.8 divided by 59.4). Each qualifying QB has his PR multiplied by 1.43 for that year, to yield an Adjusted Passer Rating.
After sorting the 1400+ lines of data, I selected all QBs with 5 or more qualifying seasons and averaged each man's yearly Adjusted Ratings to get a composite career number. Here's my top 50, which I find much more plausible than the unadjusted numbers, though obviously not perfect by any means:
|
Rank |
Composite Adjusted Passer Rating |
Player |
Last Tm |
Last Yr |
|
1 |
110.4 |
Otto Graham |
CLE |
1955 |
|
2 |
106.6 |
Steve Young |
SF |
1998 |
|
3 |
105.4 |
Roger Staubach |
DAL |
1979 |
|
4 |
102.1 |
Len Dawson |
KC |
1974 |
|
5 |
101.8 |
Joe Montana |
KC |
1994 |
|
6 |
101.5 |
Sonny Jurgensen |
WAS |
1970 |
|
7 |
100.4 |
Norm Van Brocklin |
PHI |
1960 |
|
8 |
99.6 |
Bart Starr |
GB |
1970 |
|
9 |
99.4 |
IND |
2008 |
|
|
10 |
99.2 |
ARI |
2008 |
|
|
11 |
98.5 |
Milt Plum |
DET |
1965 |
|
12 |
98.5 |
Johnny Unitas |
BAL |
1970 |
|
13 |
98.0 |
Bert Jones |
BAL |
1981 |
|
14 |
98.0 |
Fran Tarkenton |
MIN |
1978 |
|
15 |
97.2 |
MIN |
2004 |
|
|
16 |
97.0 |
Frank Ryan |
CLE |
1967 |
|
17 |
96.1 |
NE |
2007 |
|
|
18 |
95.9 |
Bobby Thomason |
PHI |
1955 |
|
19 |
95.8 |
Ken Anderson |
CIN |
1984 |
|
20 |
95.7 |
Greg Landry |
BAL |
1979 |
|
21 |
95.4 |
Daryle Lamonica |
OAK |
1972 |
|
22 |
93.9 |
Dan Marino |
MIA |
1999 |
|
23 |
93.8 |
Bob Griese |
MIA |
1979 |
|
24 |
93.7 |
KC |
2005 |
|
|
25 |
93.5 |
Dan Fouts |
SD |
1987 |
|
26 |
93.4 |
Chad Pennington |
MIA |
2008 |
|
27 |
93.3 |
Don Meredith |
DAL |
1968 |
|
28 |
93.0 |
PIT |
2008 |
|
|
29 |
92.7 |
Randall Cunningham |
MIN |
1998 |
|
30 |
92.2 |
Jim Kelly |
BUF |
1996 |
|
31 |
92.2 |
Y.A. Tittle |
NYG |
1964 |
|
32 |
91.3 |
Ken Stabler |
NO |
1983 |
|
33 |
91.1 |
NO |
2008 |
|
|
34 |
91.0 |
TB |
2008 |
|
|
35 |
90.9 |
PHI |
2008 |
|
|
36 |
90.9 |
NYJ |
2008 |
|
|
37 |
90.8 |
Danny White |
DAL |
1987 |
|
38 |
90.3 |
Charlie Conerly |
NY |
1959 |
|
39 |
90.2 |
Craig Morton |
DEN |
1981 |
|
40 |
90.2 |
Joe Theismann |
WAS |
1985 |
|
41 |
90.2 |
Ken O'Brien |
NYJ |
1991 |
|
42 |
90.1 |
Dave Krieg |
CHI |
1996 |
|
43 |
90.0 |
Billy Wade |
CHI |
1964 |
|
44 |
89.8 |
Chris Chandler |
ATL |
2001 |
|
45 |
89.8 |
Brian Griese |
CHI |
2007 |
|
46 |
89.7 |
John Brodie |
SF |
1971 |
|
47 |
89.3 |
Neil O'Donnell |
CIN |
1998 |
|
48 |
89.2 |
Neil Lomax |
PHO |
1988 |
|
49 |
89.2 |
Jeff Hostetler |
OAK |
1996 |
|
50 |
89.2 |
Bernie Kosar |
CLE |
1991 |
|
53 |
89.0 |
Steve Bartkowski |
ATL |
1984 |
|
59 |
88.3 |
Bobby Hebert |
ATL |
1996 |
|
119 |
72.2 |
ATL |
2007 |
I posted a copy of my spreadsheet here in case anyone wants to see more data. It's a 900+ KB file, so it may take a few minutes with a dial-up connection. Cheers to all you old QBs out there!
This FanPost was written by one of The Falcoholic's talented readers. It does not necessarily reflect the views of The Falcoholic.
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Sweet Fancy Moses
That’s awesome work! Utterly bizarre to see Milt Plum that high on the list, though.
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by Dave the Falconer on Oct 5, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's a vast anti-Milt Plum conspiracy out there, people...
He, Ryan and Thomason kinda polluted the top 20, I should have cooked the books! Thanks Dave.
by tom slick on Oct 5, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to do it
And glad to have more ammo to assert that Joe Namath was in no way a got-dang Hall of Fame quarterback.
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by Dave the Falconer on Oct 5, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks good
The original list sure cheated the older guys. Can’t dl your file, any ideas?
Yep, I remember 'hemorrhage', and 'embolism', and even 'detached retina'...
It sounded scary, but when you smell the goal line, they're only words. Just words.
by Bill Dauterive on Oct 5, 2009 1:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
The download works OK for me. In your web browser, be sure cookies are enabled for the domain www.filedropper.com.
by tom slick on Oct 5, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FileDropper
The website created by Najeh Davenport.
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by Dave the Falconer on Oct 5, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A couple of hours copying and pasting
flies by when you’re drinking the right brand of paint thinner. Thanks!
by tom slick on Oct 5, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
Chris Chandler was really good in 2001, and still lost his job.
by Bronn on Oct 5, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you like comparing all-time great QB’s
P-F-R is always up to something… Recently, they Ranked QB’s by their Peak (6 best seasons). Bartkowski was ATL’s highest ranked QB at #64. Matt Ryan was #78 (because of his one really great year), Chandler was #79 (with 4 seasons in ATL included), Bob Berry #87, and kciV was #145.
Number one is a surprise, and a few others seem out of place, but overall it’s a pretty good list. Very interesting read…
by orang3b on Oct 7, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good link, thanks
Didn’t realize PFR did those. Using peak seasons has a lot of advantages. When you use career numbers, the “Milt Plum” effect seems hard to get rid of, no matter how you weigh the data.
by tom slick on Oct 7, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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