Will 2008 Be A Legendary Year For Quarterbacks?
It's a question worth asking, I think.
USA Today posits that the success of our boy Matt Ryan and the Ravens' Joe Flacco is putting a lot of pressure on general managers leaguewide, several of whom are in trouble if their hot shot quarterback prospects don't work out. There's a few probably coming out next year, guys like Colt McCoy out of Texas and Matt Stafford out of Georgia, who are going to be awful tempting for teams like the Detroit Lions or the St. Louis Rams to take a shot on. It probably won't work out so well for them, though.
Sometimes life hands you freshly squeezed lemonade and tells you to sit down and relax. Thomas Dimitroff surely liked Matt Ryan, but nobody outside of Ryan's immediate family would've told you he would take off so spectacularly. After some early season struggles, Flacco is rapidly improving and has the Ravens positioned for the playoffs as well. These guys aren't just clearing their projections, they're pole vaulting over them.
What's really scary about the class of 2008 is that we haven't even seen some other intriguing picks get any snaps yet. Chad Henne has all the tools necessary to be a quality starter in the NFL and will likely get a shot at the starting job in the next season or two with the Dolphins, while Brian Brohm could be a quality NFL backup at worst for the Packers. Even the Patriots have a quality backup candidate in Kevin O'Connell, who probably has more going for him from a physicality standpoint than any quarterback New England has had recently (yes, even you, Tom Brady). Heck, the Vikings could do worse than fifth round pick John David Booty next year.
Naturally, not all of these guys will turn out to be anything special. Still, if Henne takes the path I expect from him and does reasonably well, you could have three quarterbacks performing at a very high level coming out of the same draft. The last draft with that kind of bounty was 2004, when teams selected Eli Manning, Phil Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger, and you have to go back quite a bit further to find another draft that turned up more than two guys with any lasting impact.
If injuries don't derail any careers, I see great things coming from this class. As a fan of quality quarterbacking that doesn't involve Gus Frerotte, I hope I'm right.
But beware, GMs, lest ye find the low-hanging fruit of high round quarterbacks is not so kind to you in 2009.
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I think Sam Bradford...
…will be a really good QB at the next level. I’ve watched OU play a couple times, and he seems to have the tools to make the throws and the intelligence to make the reads. Don’t forget about ol’ Timmy Tebow, either. That guy may force some poor offensive coordinator to entirely change his scheme.
Yes, this is a QB-heavy draft. And while many of them are not seniors, you can bet your next bar tab that none of them are going to roll the dice with the NFL collective bargaining agreement. If they feel they’ll lose a few million by returning to school for another year, they’ll be leaving with the quickness. No one wants to lose out on all that extra money in the top 10. Just ask Matt Leinart.
by Tron5000 on
Dec 2, 2008 8:10 AM EST
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I'm afraid that we're going to see
a bunch of rooks starting next year and pulling huge Brady Quinns. That’s not to say there’s not a lot of talent out there waiting in the wings but some of those kids are not going to be amazing out of the gate like Ryan and Flacco. Ryan and Flacco are the exception to the rule and I’m afraid a lot of teams are going to get burned if they start their rook QBs too early. Aaron Rodgers is a good example. He spent a few years under Farve’s wing learning the ropes so when he finally made his NFL debut, he was serviceable if not good. What if they had started him right away? I doubt he’d be a Ryan or Flacco.
So as we enter the 2009 draft, which from all angles I’m looking, will be quarterback heavy in the first and second rounds, I hope the decisions made post draft will be smart ones. I don’t want to see a habit of starting rooks next year just because the Falcons won the QB lottery. His success may also bring in a lot of junior draftees, thinking that his starting in the regular season will be the precedent for all teams. They will have to remember that Ryan earned his way to the top in the eyes of the coaches. Other rookies will have to do the same.
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by tlozwarlock on
Dec 2, 2008 9:39 AM EST
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Would Aaron Rodgers be better if he started?
While I was #1 on the Matt Ryan Bandwagon, I didn’t think he should start. I have been proven wrong. Had Aaron Rodgers gained the experience in his rookie year, how much better do you think he’d be right now?
I realize that Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers are two different people, on different teams with different circumstances. But doesn’t that make Matty that much more phenomenal?
by Tron5000 on
Dec 2, 2008 8:09 PM EST
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Tedford
Aaron Rodgers is a Jeff Tedford QB. Jeff Tedford QB’s usually suck. They make a half-read, and then decide. If there’s coverage on the half of the field they scan, they dump the ball. Rodgers would’ve been killed if he’d started right away. Sitting on the sidelines allowed him to learn to read the whole field, and become a more complete quarterback.
Ryan seems to be able to read the whole field, or most of it anyways, before the pressure gets to him.
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by iRonin on
Dec 3, 2008 11:17 AM EST
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Yea I agree we will see a trend of a lot of these guys getting thrown in there. I already have predicted that Stafford will be starting game 1 for the Lions next year. And on the poll question when I say “absolutely” I refer to snowballs putting the entire league into a deep freeze then looting and pillaging the rest of the teams for wins.
by BVaz on
Dec 2, 2008 9:51 AM EST
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Dave
I know this isn’t the place to ask. Not sure where to ask but could you remind people to vote for the pro bowl at NFL.com. We have a lot of talent that need the votes.
by Funballad on
Dec 2, 2008 11:58 AM EST
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Just remember to only vote Facons
When you vote for someone else (like when they ask for 2 Centers [really?]), you take a vote away from the Falcons. Yeah, that’s right. I’m advocating voting your home team and excluding everyone else. Anyone here got a problem with that?
by Tron5000 on
Dec 2, 2008 8:11 PM EST
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Ballot box stuffing?
Sounds undemocratic to me! The Redskins’ fans may do it, but I don’t think that makes it right. The whole selection process needs to be scrapped and redesigned though. These kind of shenanigans by the fans don’t cut it. Only the players and coaches should vote IMO.
by tom slick on
Dec 2, 2008 8:17 PM EST
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All All-Star games are shams
It’s nothing more than a popularity contest. The fans vote for players from their home teams (that’s what I was lampooning in my previous post), the casual fans vote for the biggest names they recognize, and it’s one big beauty pageant. The players and coaches are the ones who really know what’s going down on the field. That’s why I enjoy seeing the coaches’ selections for backups more than the fans’ choices for starters. Like, remember when Shaq was voted to start the NBA All-Star game a couple years ago, even though he was having one of the worst seasons of his career? Or Dustin Pedroia (.291 avg, 7 HR, 34 RBI, 8 SB, 48 R, 94 H) starting over Ian Kinsler (.310 avg, 13 HR, 49 RBI, 19 SB, 67 R, 102 H) in this year’s MLB game? Just silly.
by Tron5000 on
Dec 3, 2008 12:34 PM EST
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They're a travesty
On that we heartily agree. I lost most of my remaining respect for MLB when they (at Fox’s behest) allowed the winner of their All-Star game to have home-field advantage in the World Series. Bud Selig could have stopped it, but let the almighty dollar win. It’s a shame that sports leagues view all-star voting as a marketing opportunity, rather than a chance to truly showcase their best.
by tom slick on
Dec 3, 2008 9:12 PM EST
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As a Ravens fan I’ve obviously been thrilled with Flacco, but I think the fundamental missing piece is good coaching. Flacco in particular is playing so well because Cam Cameron has done an incredible job developing him, as he did with Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers in the past. Mike Mularkey did not come with nearly as much of a track record with developing quarterbacks, but I’m sure his work with Ryan played an integral role in Ryan’s development as well.
I suppose we can all hope this draft is like the 1983 draft that yielded three Hall of Fame quarterbacks, with hopefully a few more superbowl victories to spread between them. I do know that I’m going to get sick of Matt Ryan-Joe Flacco comparisons pretty freaking quickly.
by math_geek on
Dec 2, 2008 4:45 PM EST
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Who's that 3rd HOF QB?
Chad Henne? Brian Brohm?
Too bad there’s no Matt Cassel in this draft.
by Tron5000 on
Dec 2, 2008 8:13 PM EST
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Henne
If we’re being totally honest, I think Henne can be a 2 or 3 time Pro Bowler in the league. I may go down in flames on that one, but hey!
by Dave the Falconer on
Dec 2, 2008 8:22 PM EST
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Lots of talent out there
This Ryan kid you speak of seems to be doing pretty well, as does Flacco. Personally, I think Henne and Brohm are almost sure things in the future if their teams don’t sabotage their development. 2008 should turn out to be a vintage year indeed.
by tom slick on
Dec 2, 2008 8:12 PM EST
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As a Georgia fan, this pains me
But, I have a hard time seeing Stafford being a first year starter. He hasn’t had a quality O-line yet in college, and putting him in a game as fast as the NFL will be problematic for him, since he has trouble not forcing his throws in college. If he goes somewhere willing to sit him for a year or two, then he should be fine.
Also, Tim Tebow? He’ll be a pro-bowl fullback in no time.
by blackertai on
Dec 3, 2008 12:59 AM EST
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Amen
Take away Tebow’s ability to throw and you have one deadly FB.
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by tlozwarlock on
Dec 3, 2008 1:08 AM EST
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FB?
I think Tebow will be a HOF Tight End. I’m not sure how his hands are, but he’s another Dallas Clark or Jason Witten if he can catch.
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by iRonin on
Dec 3, 2008 11:18 AM EST
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I'm with you
Stafford has great physical talent but his decision making sucks majorly and I think he will struggle with an NFL defense, especially if he is thrown out there year 1. Knowshon is the beast on that team, they need to run him more and have less on Stafford, probably would have won the Tech game then.
by BVaz on
Dec 3, 2008 4:38 PM EST
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I'd take him on my team
Just not at the top of the draft. If you could get him somewhere in the middle rounds, he’d be a decent weapon.
by Tron5000 on
Dec 3, 2008 10:19 AM EST
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