#1 Wide Receivers and # 7
I was just reading a post on the Questions for Gonzo page. Hamburger brought up something I've been thinking about since last season. What if Michael Vick actually had a true "number one" Wide Receiver? I know we're in the chase here at the end of the season, and now that the Iceman hath cometh to Atlanta there is no real need to discuss, but I'm just interested in y'alls opinions. Was Atlanta's passing attack terrible due to the fact that Jenkins and White dipped their hands in Crisco before the games or that Vick couldn't hit the water if he fell out of a boat? What role does the arrival of a pocket passer (first in Harrington and Redman later with the Iceman) play in the emergence of White and Jenkins? Is Harry Douglas truly in High Definition? Do other people appear dull when standing next to him? It is these questions that I've been pondering. Let me know.
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Why Vick was terrible:
Watching him week in and week out in 06 told me all I needed to know. He had Crumpler and could hit Crumpler pretty well, but outside of that, he had no accuracy past the first down marker.
If Crumpler wasn’t open, he didn’t stay around or roll out sideways like Matty Ice to see what developed. He just ran. That was Vick’s #1 attack because he wasn’t comfortable throwing to anyone not Crumpker. Vick ducked and dodged and then ran with the ball, often coughing it up because he hardly ever tucked the ball until well past the line of scrimmage.
Vick’s lack of accuracy and bad decision making would’ve made TO and Randy Moss look mediocre. Vick was like water behind center; viscous and hard to grasp. That’s what made him dangerous. Not his airing attack, but his ability to run. Matty Ice is like a stone. He stands in the pocket and throws clutch passes with hulking defenders in his face. When stuff takes longer to develop, he rolls out and makes something happen through the air. He makes something happen with the eligible receivers instead of tucking and run. But, like Elway, he will run and will take a hit when he has to. He doesn’t run because of a lack of decisiveness, he runs because it’s either the designed play or he makes something out of nothing. Vick does not have the throwing talent nor the decision making to be anywhere near as successful in the air as Matty Ice.
So there. Nanny nanny boo boo.
"The nice thing about supporting a bedraggled-cum-decent team? Watching all those analysts eat their words."
by tlozwarlock on Dec 17, 2008 10:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nough said really
Yup..uhh..nough said bout that Vick character.
by Grayson on Dec 17, 2008 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats fine by me
I was just interested to hear y’alls thoughts.
If my mother put on a helmet and shoulder pads and a uniform that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd run over her if she was in my way. And I love my mother.
-Bo Jackson
by Pregame with Pabst on Dec 18, 2008 9:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good Question
Honestly … I think Vick has an incredible amt of talent. BUT, tlozwarlock is right … he is a threat because he can run, not because he is durable, not because he is an accomplished pocket passer, etc. Vick’s stats would have been better (without a question) if Roddy, etc. hadn’t dropped so many passes during his tenure. Look up the stats. I remember arguing w/ my friends that hated Vick (primarily Bears fans) about how he’d have 5-10 more TDs a season if his receivers weren’t dropping the ball so much.
I think Vick’s biggest downfall is his lack of durability. His running ability can help him overcome his lack of passing ability … but if he ain’t healthy, he can’t do anything. Do you remember how many BS hammy injuries the guy had? That was what frustrated the hell out of me.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Dec 18, 2008 11:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly on the injuredness.
It’s like whenever he didn’t feel like playing, he just overextended himself at the dog pit or something.
"The nice thing about supporting a bedraggled-cum-decent team? Watching all those analysts eat their words."
by tlozwarlock on Dec 18, 2008 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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